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Doesn't it mean that hybrid meetings will no longer be allowed? For a joint meeting of the form "hybrid J3 + f2f WG5", many people wouldn't be able to attend the WG5 portion, and for a joint "hybrid J3 + virtual WG5", countries like Japan wouldn't support travels for the J3 portion only. Regards, Makki Change 14: Meeting rules are consolidated and timelines are standardized What=E2=80=99s changing All meeting-related rules are brought together in a single clause, with updated timelines. =E2=80=A2 One consolidated framework for planning, running, and reporting m= eetings =E2=80=A2 Only two meeting formats: face-to-face and virtual =E2=80=A2 Standardized deadlines for agendas, documents, and reporting Why this matters to you =E2=80=A2 Clearer and more consistent way to organize meetings =E2=80=A2 Better preparation through defined timelines =E2=80=A2 Greater transparency on roles, responsibilities, and outputs What you will need to do =E2=80=A2 Plan meetings in line with the new timelines =E2=80=A2 Ensure documents and agendas are circulated on time =E2=80=A2 Follow the updated rules for meeting organization and reporting Key timing =E2=80=A2 October 2026: new rules apply 2026=E5=B9=B45=E6=9C=888=E6=97=A5(=E9=87=91) 1:54 Steve Lionel : > ISO will be releasing an updated "Directives" document in October - this > governs pretty much everything an ISO committee does. They released a > summary of important changes, which I have reviewed. The only change I > spotted that will require eventual action from us is this: > > Change 12: Corrections will now be published as both a corrigendum and a > corrected version > What=E2=80=99s changing > The correction process is clarified and harmonized. > =E2=80=A2 Corrections will result in two outputs: > o a corrigendum (listing the corrections) > o a corrected version (integrating the corrections into the document) > =E2=80=A2 Corrections are limited to fixing errors or ambiguities, not up= dating > content > > Why this matters to you > =E2=80=A2 Clearer and more transparent correction process > =E2=80=A2 Easier for users to understand and apply corrections > =E2=80=A2 Improved consistency between ISO and IEC publications > What you will need to do > =E2=80=A2 Continue submitting correction requests as before > =E2=80=A2 Ensure that corrections are limited to genuine errors or ambigu= ities > inadvertently introduced that > could lead to incorrect or unsafe application > Key timing > =E2=80=A2 October 2026: new rules apply > > TBH, I like this change, even though it makes more work for us (us > meaning Malcolm primarily!) Edit papers will need to reference the > latest corrigendum version, not the originally published version. It > may make for some confusion when we have both a corrected version and a > working revision document at the same time, but we'll figure out a way > to deal with that. Please think about this and we can discuss ideas when > we meet in June. > > Steve > > --=20 =E6=B1=9F=E6=88=B8=E5=B7=9D=E5=A4=A7=E5=AD=A6 =E5=85=83=E6=95=99=E5=93=A1 = =E9=AB=98=E7=94=B0=E6=AD=A3=E4=B9=8B email: takata@g.edogawa-u.ac.jp --0000000000004055ac06517095ff Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve and all,

If I understa= nd it correctly, Change 14 has a substantial impact=C2=A0on WG5.=C2=A0 =C2= =A0
Doesn't it mean that hybrid meetings will no longer be al= lowed?

For a joint meeting of the form "hybri= d J3 + f2f WG5", many people wouldn't=C2=A0
be able to a= ttend the WG5 portion, and for a joint "hybrid J3 + virtual WG5",= =C2=A0
countries=C2=A0like Japan=C2=A0wouldn't support travel= s for the J3 portion only.

Regards,
Makk= i

Change 14: Meeting rules are consolidated and timelines are standardized

What=E2=80=99s changing
All meeting-related rules are brought toge= ther in a single clause, with updated timelines.
=E2=80=A2 One consolida= ted framework for planning, running, and reporting meetings
=E2= =80=A2 Only two meeting formats: face-to-face and virtual
=E2=80=A2 Sta= ndardized deadlines for agendas, documents, and reporting

Why= this matters to you
=E2=80=A2 Clearer and more consistent way to organi= ze meetings
=E2=80=A2 Better preparation through defined timelines
= =E2=80=A2 Greater transparency on roles, responsibilities, and outputs

What you will need to do
=E2=80=A2 Plan meetings in line with = the new timelines
=E2=80=A2 Ensure documents and agendas are circulated = on time
=E2=80=A2 Follow the updated rules for meeting organization and = reporting

Key timing
=E2=80=A2 October 2026: new rules app= ly

2026=E5=B9=B45=E6=9C=888=E6=97=A5(=E9=87=91) = 1:54 Steve Lionel <steve@stevel= ionel.com>:
ISO will be releasing an updated "Directives" document in Octo= ber - this
governs pretty much everything an ISO committee does. They released a
summary of important changes, which I have reviewed. The only change I
spotted that will require eventual action from us is this:

Change 12: Corrections will now be published as both a corrigendum and a corrected version
What=E2=80=99s changing
The correction process is clarified and harmonized.
=E2=80=A2 Corrections will result in two outputs:
o a corrigendum (listing the corrections)
o a corrected version (integrating the corrections into the document)
=E2=80=A2 Corrections are limited to fixing errors or ambiguities, not upda= ting
content

Why this matters to you
=E2=80=A2 Clearer and more transparent correction process
=E2=80=A2 Easier for users to understand and apply corrections
=E2=80=A2 Improved consistency between ISO and IEC publications
What you will need to do
=E2=80=A2 Continue submitting correction requests as before
=E2=80=A2 Ensure that corrections are limited to genuine errors or ambiguit= ies
inadvertently introduced that
could lead to incorrect or unsafe application
Key timing
=E2=80=A2 October 2026: new rules apply

TBH, I like this change, even though it makes more work for us (us
meaning Malcolm primarily!)=C2=A0 Edit papers will need to reference the latest corrigendum version, not the=C2=A0 originally published version. It =
may make for some confusion when we have both a corrected version and a working revision document at the same time, but we'll figure out a way =
to deal with that. Please think about this and we can discuss ideas when we meet in June.

Steve



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